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Hrithik ashamed of India, decides to move to Pakistan
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AVM
2006-06-01 20:15:11 UTC
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What Hrithik should have done is given Aamir advice on how to apologies, I
think Hrithik suffers from short term memory loss, how soon he forgot his
comments on Nepal and ban on his movies there.

Aamir's words have shown no concern for the Gujarati People why should
Gukrat care for him, for the people who think it is BJP banning the movie
check and see the facts, the Gujrat Video Library association which has 0%
BJP influence has come out strongly against Aamir.

Peace
MUMBAI: Hrithik Roshan, who has been busy promoting his forthcoming
film Krrish , is extremely upset by the criticism Aamir Khan has
faced for his support to the Narmada evacuees in Gujarat.
"I am ashamed to live in a country where one political party can use
the power given to them by the people to try and punish an individual
for his opinion and rob him of his democratic rights. And only because
he believes in a righteous cause that goes against the interests of the
political party concerned," Hrithik said in an interview..
Raag
2006-06-01 20:45:26 UTC
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Could you please clarify why Aamir should have apologized??

Anurag
Post by AVM
What Hrithik should have done is given Aamir advice on how to apologies, I
think Hrithik suffers from short term memory loss, how soon he forgot his
comments on Nepal and ban on his movies there.
Aamir's words have shown no concern for the Gujarati People why should
Gukrat care for him, for the people who think it is BJP banning the movie
check and see the facts, the Gujrat Video Library association which has 0%
BJP influence has come out strongly against Aamir.
Peace
MUMBAI: Hrithik Roshan, who has been busy promoting his forthcoming
film Krrish , is extremely upset by the criticism Aamir Khan has
faced for his support to the Narmada evacuees in Gujarat.
"I am ashamed to live in a country where one political party can use
the power given to them by the people to try and punish an individual
for his opinion and rob him of his democratic rights. And only because
he believes in a righteous cause that goes against the interests of the
political party concerned," Hrithik said in an interview..
harmony
2006-06-01 21:16:46 UTC
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you are not very bright. the point is about rendering help of the kind that
one has demonstrably rendered before.
Post by Raag
Could you please clarify why Aamir should have apologized??
Anurag
Post by AVM
What Hrithik should have done is given Aamir advice on how to apologies, I
think Hrithik suffers from short term memory loss, how soon he forgot his
comments on Nepal and ban on his movies there.
Aamir's words have shown no concern for the Gujarati People why should
Gukrat care for him, for the people who think it is BJP banning the movie
check and see the facts, the Gujrat Video Library association which has 0%
BJP influence has come out strongly against Aamir.
Peace
MUMBAI: Hrithik Roshan, who has been busy promoting his forthcoming
film Krrish , is extremely upset by the criticism Aamir Khan has
faced for his support to the Narmada evacuees in Gujarat.
"I am ashamed to live in a country where one political party can use
the power given to them by the people to try and punish an individual
for his opinion and rob him of his democratic rights. And only because
he believes in a righteous cause that goes against the interests of the
political party concerned," Hrithik said in an interview..
Raag
2006-06-02 12:32:19 UTC
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Kool! So you did demonstrate your brightness and others who did all the
stupid things in Gujarat as well. Anybody can render help to anybody
whenever he wants. If somebody doesn't like it, express it verbally. Do
not show insolency.

We must realize that when we rely on these tactics, we loose our
credibility. This hooliganism is not gonna take India very far. Lets be
respectful of each other, then the issues can be resolved. Burning
posters, banning movies, crticizing in a bad language doesn't show a
mature character.

Anurag
http://hindi-mishranurag.blogspot.com
Post by harmony
you are not very bright. the point is about rendering help of the kind that
one has demonstrably rendered before.
Post by Raag
Could you please clarify why Aamir should have apologized??
Anurag
Post by AVM
What Hrithik should have done is given Aamir advice on how to apologies, I
think Hrithik suffers from short term memory loss, how soon he forgot his
comments on Nepal and ban on his movies there.
Aamir's words have shown no concern for the Gujarati People why should
Gukrat care for him, for the people who think it is BJP banning the movie
check and see the facts, the Gujrat Video Library association which has 0%
BJP influence has come out strongly against Aamir.
Peace
MUMBAI: Hrithik Roshan, who has been busy promoting his forthcoming
film Krrish , is extremely upset by the criticism Aamir Khan has
faced for his support to the Narmada evacuees in Gujarat.
"I am ashamed to live in a country where one political party can use
the power given to them by the people to try and punish an individual
for his opinion and rob him of his democratic rights. And only because
he believes in a righteous cause that goes against the interests of the
political party concerned," Hrithik said in an interview..
i***@comcast.net
2006-06-02 14:15:38 UTC
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so you applaud when Amir does a Rang de Basanti act but not if people
enact Rang de Basanti. It is ok if movies take extremist positions but
not ok if people imitate those positions. Hooliganism is when a person
acts against a greater good - that is what Amir tried to do - sabatage
greater good affecting millions of people - depriving water, food and
electricity from millions of homes - that is real hooliganism. Burnign
posters is not - that is acceptable as peaceful protest and civil
disobidience. Gandhi burnt imported clothes, boycotted products, shut
down public services, closed down normal life - nobody called it
hooliganism. Unlike Amir's Rang De Banasnti where protests with ak-47
and political assassinations, Unlike Amir's Faana where terrorism is
weapon of choice for political protests - and we are told that to
promote such trash is democtratic rights and not hooliganism? Not very
bright. Perhaps watching too many mind-numbing movies. Consider it
public service if idiots like you are deprived of goon movies.
Post by Raag
Kool! So you did demonstrate your brightness and others who did all the
stupid things in Gujarat as well. Anybody can render help to anybody
whenever he wants. If somebody doesn't like it, express it verbally. Do
not show insolency.
We must realize that when we rely on these tactics, we loose our
credibility. This hooliganism is not gonna take India very far. Lets be
respectful of each other, then the issues can be resolved. Burning
posters, banning movies, crticizing in a bad language doesn't show a
mature character.
Anurag
http://hindi-mishranurag.blogspot.com
Post by harmony
you are not very bright. the point is about rendering help of the kind that
one has demonstrably rendered before.
Post by Raag
Could you please clarify why Aamir should have apologized??
Anurag
Post by AVM
What Hrithik should have done is given Aamir advice on how to apologies, I
think Hrithik suffers from short term memory loss, how soon he forgot his
comments on Nepal and ban on his movies there.
Aamir's words have shown no concern for the Gujarati People why should
Gukrat care for him, for the people who think it is BJP banning the movie
check and see the facts, the Gujrat Video Library association which has 0%
BJP influence has come out strongly against Aamir.
Peace
MUMBAI: Hrithik Roshan, who has been busy promoting his forthcoming
film Krrish , is extremely upset by the criticism Aamir Khan has
faced for his support to the Narmada evacuees in Gujarat.
"I am ashamed to live in a country where one political party can use
the power given to them by the people to try and punish an individual
for his opinion and rob him of his democratic rights. And only because
he believes in a righteous cause that goes against the interests of the
political party concerned," Hrithik said in an interview..
Raag
2006-06-02 16:01:20 UTC
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Hi,

I appreciate the comments from both sides. I just need to ask you one
thing. Did you see the interview where Aamir actually spoke of aboutr
Narmada Issue? Did you see other interview where he tried to defend
himself? Or, it has become our habit of reading headlines and create a
whole ho halla out of that?

I am not defending Aamir. I am against the way protest was registered
against Aamir. I will stay against that tactics always.

Anurag
Post by i***@comcast.net
so you applaud when Amir does a Rang de Basanti act but not if people
enact Rang de Basanti. It is ok if movies take extremist positions but
not ok if people imitate those positions. Hooliganism is when a person
acts against a greater good - that is what Amir tried to do - sabatage
greater good affecting millions of people - depriving water, food and
electricity from millions of homes - that is real hooliganism. Burnign
posters is not - that is acceptable as peaceful protest and civil
disobidience. Gandhi burnt imported clothes, boycotted products, shut
down public services, closed down normal life - nobody called it
hooliganism. Unlike Amir's Rang De Banasnti where protests with ak-47
and political assassinations, Unlike Amir's Faana where terrorism is
weapon of choice for political protests - and we are told that to
promote such trash is democtratic rights and not hooliganism? Not very
bright. Perhaps watching too many mind-numbing movies. Consider it
public service if idiots like you are deprived of goon movies.
Post by Raag
Kool! So you did demonstrate your brightness and others who did all the
stupid things in Gujarat as well. Anybody can render help to anybody
whenever he wants. If somebody doesn't like it, express it verbally. Do
not show insolency.
We must realize that when we rely on these tactics, we loose our
credibility. This hooliganism is not gonna take India very far. Lets be
respectful of each other, then the issues can be resolved. Burning
posters, banning movies, crticizing in a bad language doesn't show a
mature character.
Anurag
http://hindi-mishranurag.blogspot.com
Post by harmony
you are not very bright. the point is about rendering help of the kind that
one has demonstrably rendered before.
Post by Raag
Could you please clarify why Aamir should have apologized??
Anurag
Post by AVM
What Hrithik should have done is given Aamir advice on how to apologies, I
think Hrithik suffers from short term memory loss, how soon he forgot his
comments on Nepal and ban on his movies there.
Aamir's words have shown no concern for the Gujarati People why should
Gukrat care for him, for the people who think it is BJP banning the movie
check and see the facts, the Gujrat Video Library association which has 0%
BJP influence has come out strongly against Aamir.
Peace
MUMBAI: Hrithik Roshan, who has been busy promoting his forthcoming
film Krrish , is extremely upset by the criticism Aamir Khan has
faced for his support to the Narmada evacuees in Gujarat.
"I am ashamed to live in a country where one political party can use
the power given to them by the people to try and punish an individual
for his opinion and rob him of his democratic rights. And only because
he believes in a righteous cause that goes against the interests of the
political party concerned," Hrithik said in an interview..
i***@comcast.net
2006-06-02 20:54:01 UTC
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Post by Raag
Hi,
I appreciate the comments from both sides.
Not every issue should have two sides. On certain basic issues, there
can not be ifs or buts. Trying to create opposite sides on certain
issues is a form of violence.

I just need to ask you one
Post by Raag
thing. Did you see the interview where Aamir actually spoke of aboutr
Narmada Issue? Did you see other interview where he tried to defend
himself?
Nobody believes what Amir is saying. Amir is lying like a petty
politician. Amir is not hated because he holds certain positions. He is
hated for adopting NBA positions that are diametrically opposite to
what he is claiming in his interviews. NBA has a wel-established track
record of over 50 years of obstructionism - that is what Amir inherited
and that is what people are reacting to. If he truly believes in what
he is saying, all he has to do is to distance himlself from NBA - until
he does that, he will be associated with NBA's poisitions and nothing
he says to the contrary will make a difference.

Or, it has become our habit of reading headlines and create a
Post by Raag
whole ho halla out of that?
People are not idiots like you. they can read and they can analyse too.
they can tell when someone is lying and when someone is not sincere.
Post by Raag
I am not defending Aamir.
Yes. You are.

I am against the way protest was registered
Post by Raag
against Aamir.
Protest is a political right. WHen people strike, they shut down
factories, traffic, serivices, production, whatever that is targetted
for strike. those at the receiving end never like them. that is why
they are so effective in bringing the erring side to compromise
position.

I will stay against that tactics always.
WHo cares what you like or dislike? You are not Amir khan. Your
opinions do not count. Opinions are dime a dozen. Every idiot has one.
Post by Raag
Anurag
Post by i***@comcast.net
so you applaud when Amir does a Rang de Basanti act but not if people
enact Rang de Basanti. It is ok if movies take extremist positions but
not ok if people imitate those positions. Hooliganism is when a person
acts against a greater good - that is what Amir tried to do - sabatage
greater good affecting millions of people - depriving water, food and
electricity from millions of homes - that is real hooliganism. Burnign
posters is not - that is acceptable as peaceful protest and civil
disobidience. Gandhi burnt imported clothes, boycotted products, shut
down public services, closed down normal life - nobody called it
hooliganism. Unlike Amir's Rang De Banasnti where protests with ak-47
and political assassinations, Unlike Amir's Faana where terrorism is
weapon of choice for political protests - and we are told that to
promote such trash is democtratic rights and not hooliganism? Not very
bright. Perhaps watching too many mind-numbing movies. Consider it
public service if idiots like you are deprived of goon movies.
Post by Raag
Kool! So you did demonstrate your brightness and others who did all the
stupid things in Gujarat as well. Anybody can render help to anybody
whenever he wants. If somebody doesn't like it, express it verbally. Do
not show insolency.
We must realize that when we rely on these tactics, we loose our
credibility. This hooliganism is not gonna take India very far. Lets be
respectful of each other, then the issues can be resolved. Burning
posters, banning movies, crticizing in a bad language doesn't show a
mature character.
Anurag
http://hindi-mishranurag.blogspot.com
Post by harmony
you are not very bright. the point is about rendering help of the kind that
one has demonstrably rendered before.
Post by Raag
Could you please clarify why Aamir should have apologized??
Anurag
Post by AVM
What Hrithik should have done is given Aamir advice on how to apologies,
I
think Hrithik suffers from short term memory loss, how soon he forgot his
comments on Nepal and ban on his movies there.
Aamir's words have shown no concern for the Gujarati People why should
Gukrat care for him, for the people who think it is BJP banning the movie
check and see the facts, the Gujrat Video Library association which has
0%
BJP influence has come out strongly against Aamir.
Peace
MUMBAI: Hrithik Roshan, who has been busy promoting his forthcoming
film Krrish , is extremely upset by the criticism Aamir Khan has
faced for his support to the Narmada evacuees in Gujarat.
"I am ashamed to live in a country where one political party can use
the power given to them by the people to try and punish an individual
for his opinion and rob him of his democratic rights. And only because
he believes in a righteous cause that goes against the interests of the
political party concerned," Hrithik said in an interview..
harmony
2006-06-02 19:52:16 UTC
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well said althogh it is wasted on this guy anurag who is pulling a besoor
raag.
Post by i***@comcast.net
so you applaud when Amir does a Rang de Basanti act but not if people
enact Rang de Basanti. It is ok if movies take extremist positions but
not ok if people imitate those positions. Hooliganism is when a person
acts against a greater good - that is what Amir tried to do - sabatage
greater good affecting millions of people - depriving water, food and
electricity from millions of homes - that is real hooliganism. Burnign
posters is not - that is acceptable as peaceful protest and civil
disobidience. Gandhi burnt imported clothes, boycotted products, shut
down public services, closed down normal life - nobody called it
hooliganism. Unlike Amir's Rang De Banasnti where protests with ak-47
and political assassinations, Unlike Amir's Faana where terrorism is
weapon of choice for political protests - and we are told that to
promote such trash is democtratic rights and not hooliganism? Not very
bright. Perhaps watching too many mind-numbing movies. Consider it
public service if idiots like you are deprived of goon movies.
Post by Raag
Kool! So you did demonstrate your brightness and others who did all the
stupid things in Gujarat as well. Anybody can render help to anybody
whenever he wants. If somebody doesn't like it, express it verbally. Do
not show insolency.
We must realize that when we rely on these tactics, we loose our
credibility. This hooliganism is not gonna take India very far. Lets be
respectful of each other, then the issues can be resolved. Burning
posters, banning movies, crticizing in a bad language doesn't show a
mature character.
Anurag
http://hindi-mishranurag.blogspot.com
Post by harmony
you are not very bright. the point is about rendering help of the kind that
one has demonstrably rendered before.
Post by Raag
Could you please clarify why Aamir should have apologized??
Anurag
Post by AVM
What Hrithik should have done is given Aamir advice on how to
apologies,
I
think Hrithik suffers from short term memory loss, how soon he forgot his
comments on Nepal and ban on his movies there.
Aamir's words have shown no concern for the Gujarati People why should
Gukrat care for him, for the people who think it is BJP banning the movie
check and see the facts, the Gujrat Video Library association which
has
0%
BJP influence has come out strongly against Aamir.
Peace
MUMBAI: Hrithik Roshan, who has been busy promoting his forthcoming
film Krrish , is extremely upset by the criticism Aamir Khan has
faced for his support to the Narmada evacuees in Gujarat.
"I am ashamed to live in a country where one political party can use
the power given to them by the people to try and punish an individual
for his opinion and rob him of his democratic rights. And only because
he believes in a righteous cause that goes against the interests of the
political party concerned," Hrithik said in an interview..
harmony
2006-06-02 19:57:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Raag
Kool! So you did demonstrate your brightness and others who did all the
stupid things in Gujarat as well. Anybody can render help to anybody
whenever he wants. If somebody doesn't like it, express it verbally. Do
not show insolency.
We must realize that when we rely on these tactics, we loose our
credibility. This hooliganism is not gonna take India very far. Lets be
respectful of each other, then the issues can be resolved. Burning
posters, banning movies, crticizing in a bad language doesn't show a
mature character.
you are again not very bright: govt did not ban the movie.
you are, however, silent on the 3 indian govts having banned the de vinci
code, and the central govt interefering with it needlessly. are you sure you
ain't a congressi?
Post by Raag
Anurag
http://hindi-mishranurag.blogspot.com
Post by harmony
you are not very bright. the point is about rendering help of the kind that
one has demonstrably rendered before.
Post by Raag
Could you please clarify why Aamir should have apologized??
Anurag
Post by AVM
What Hrithik should have done is given Aamir advice on how to
apologies,
I
think Hrithik suffers from short term memory loss, how soon he forgot his
comments on Nepal and ban on his movies there.
Aamir's words have shown no concern for the Gujarati People why should
Gukrat care for him, for the people who think it is BJP banning the movie
check and see the facts, the Gujrat Video Library association which
has
0%
BJP influence has come out strongly against Aamir.
Peace
MUMBAI: Hrithik Roshan, who has been busy promoting his forthcoming
film Krrish , is extremely upset by the criticism Aamir Khan has
faced for his support to the Narmada evacuees in Gujarat.
"I am ashamed to live in a country where one political party can use
the power given to them by the people to try and punish an individual
for his opinion and rob him of his democratic rights. And only because
he believes in a righteous cause that goes against the interests of the
political party concerned," Hrithik said in an interview..
i***@comcast.net
2006-06-02 20:31:56 UTC
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Post by Raag
Kool! So you did demonstrate your brightness and others who did all the
stupid things in Gujarat as well.
If you claim democratic rights for Amir, you should also respect what
people of gujarat are doing. You should respect their right to express
their political freedoms the way they see fit.

Anybody can render help to anybody
Post by Raag
whenever he wants. If somebody doesn't like it, express it verbally. Do
not show insolency.
Are you not dictating how people should express their political
freedoms and democratic rights. It is up to people to express them the
way they see fit. If somebody tries to starve millions of people, kill
them with thrist, deprive them of electricity and progress, turn their
land into desert, kill off their animal-stock with thirst, they are not
going to take it lying down - yet, they have not gone down mowing down
likes of Amir. Amir's position is not non-violent. It brings harm to
millions of people. Yet you expect non-violence from people harmed by
him. Amir wants to play politics with welfare of millions but not be
held accountable for his politics. Only terrorists do not care whom
they harm for their cause. Hhe has brought reel lief faana character to
real life.
Post by Raag
We must realize that when we rely on these tactics, we loose our
credibility.
What do you do if some people do not have credibility to begin with?
NBA has been a discredited organization for its anti-dam and
anti-gujarat politics. Amir tried to give credibility to such an
outfit. Doing nothing is not an option when lifeline of millions is at
stake. If persuation does not work, their asses need to be kicked.
Violence is a legitimate option in dealing with hooligans who do not
wnat to be held accountable.
Post by Raag
This hooliganism is not gonna take India very far.
India will never get very far if hooliganism is not fought and such
fight itself is equated with hoolihanism. that would distort the public
discourse and give immunity to hooligans who would pose as politicians
but would not submit to be held accountable for violence they cause by
their wilful positions.


Lets be
Post by Raag
respectful of each other, then the issues can be resolved.
Respect implies not taking diametrically opposite positions that would
harm public good. But if someone takes diametrically violent positions
and seek immunity and unaccountability as a matter of democratic
rights, that is declaration of war. People do not offer respect and
discussion in a war-front.

Burning
Post by Raag
posters, banning movies, crticizing in a bad language doesn't show a
mature character.
Mature character lies in not provoking and forcing people to strike or
protest. WHen people are provoked to take to the streets, all bets are
off. One should make sure that people do not have to take to the
streets to defend their welfare or to be heard - that would be mature
and resposible politicking.
Post by Raag
Anurag
http://hindi-mishranurag.blogspot.com
Post by harmony
you are not very bright. the point is about rendering help of the kind that
one has demonstrably rendered before.
Post by Raag
Could you please clarify why Aamir should have apologized??
Anurag
Post by AVM
What Hrithik should have done is given Aamir advice on how to apologies, I
think Hrithik suffers from short term memory loss, how soon he forgot his
comments on Nepal and ban on his movies there.
Aamir's words have shown no concern for the Gujarati People why should
Gukrat care for him, for the people who think it is BJP banning the movie
check and see the facts, the Gujrat Video Library association which has 0%
BJP influence has come out strongly against Aamir.
Peace
MUMBAI: Hrithik Roshan, who has been busy promoting his forthcoming
film Krrish , is extremely upset by the criticism Aamir Khan has
faced for his support to the Narmada evacuees in Gujarat.
"I am ashamed to live in a country where one political party can use
the power given to them by the people to try and punish an individual
for his opinion and rob him of his democratic rights. And only because
he believes in a righteous cause that goes against the interests of the
political party concerned," Hrithik said in an interview..
i***@comcast.net
2006-06-02 13:56:32 UTC
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Neither do people of India have to apologize for excercising their
democratic rights. Its a free country and people are free to accept or
reject amir and his movies. People of India and political parties of
people have the democratic rights too. Just because Amir is famous and
filmy star does not mean he has more democratic rights than others.
Amir has right to take ignorant and vengeful political positions that
deprive water from millions - but he has to take responsibilty for his
positions and face the counter-reaction from people. He is not above
accountability for his politics. People are willing to forgive him if
he realizes his mistaken positions, but he can not force people that he
be forgiven, that his democratic rights supercede democratic rights of
others. Until he publicly distances himlself from NBA, he will be tied
with NBA positions and not what he claims his positions are. By
repeating that he is for the dam, for the people of gujarat and for the
rehabilitation of displaced, he keeps insulting people and thinks he
can hoodwink them by throwing filmy lines - if he really believes what
he says, he would not have chosen NBA platform, because NBA does not
stand for none of the positions he parrots. People are mad because he
is promoting NBA positions while parroting diametrically opposite
positions to diffuse political backlash - thus trying to create
political unaccountability around him. He should move to pakistan if he
believes only he has rights and others don't.
Post by Raag
Could you please clarify why Aamir should have apologized??
Anurag
Post by AVM
What Hrithik should have done is given Aamir advice on how to apologies, I
think Hrithik suffers from short term memory loss, how soon he forgot his
comments on Nepal and ban on his movies there.
Aamir's words have shown no concern for the Gujarati People why should
Gukrat care for him, for the people who think it is BJP banning the movie
check and see the facts, the Gujrat Video Library association which has 0%
BJP influence has come out strongly against Aamir.
Peace
MUMBAI: Hrithik Roshan, who has been busy promoting his forthcoming
film Krrish , is extremely upset by the criticism Aamir Khan has
faced for his support to the Narmada evacuees in Gujarat.
"I am ashamed to live in a country where one political party can use
the power given to them by the people to try and punish an individual
for his opinion and rob him of his democratic rights. And only because
he believes in a righteous cause that goes against the interests of the
political party concerned," Hrithik said in an interview..
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